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Walking Away

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In order to grab the woman that you want, you need to learn the art of walking away. Most men will not walk away.

What happens to most men is that they’ll go to a party, find a woman they want to talk to, smother her, and they won’t leave . . . this results in the woman’s attraction level dropping each minute this continues. The opposite result occurs, i.e., the attraction increases, when you walk away from a woman to whom you’re most attracted.

Take this example. You walk up to talk to a woman you’re really attracted to, you connect and have a good conversation with her for a couple of minutes, and then . . . you walk away. When you walk away, it gives her a moment to reflect and to think “That guy just walked away. No one just walks away. Most men smother me. How come this guy just walked away?”

It creates powerful intrigue in her mind. She’s wondering who you are, what you’re all about, and how you could walk away from her. It creates incredible attraction on her part.

So then what will happen is she will find a way to find you again at the party. Or, you’ll walk around that party and the minute she sees you, she’ll plant a very seductive, sexy smile on you so you stop. Or, she’ll talk to you about something going on at the moment or ask you a question to reignite the conversation that she was having with you before.

Most guys are afraid to walk away from a woman they’re really attracted to, because it took a lot of nerve to talk to her in the first place. What you learn when you practice speaking to a lot of different women, however, is that walking away from a woman you’re interested in is the only way to see whether or not you’ve connected with her. When you’re in Smotherville - smothering a woman with conversation that may or may not be going anywhere - you’re just talking to her in random thoughts and thus not really knowing if you connect with her or not.

Why do women always go for the “bad boy?” Why do women always go for the guy who doesn’t like them or doesn’t pay them any attention? Because that man has learned the art of “the walk away.”

You need to learn and perfect the art of the walk away, and you need to use it the next time you see a beautiful woman and you talk to her. This is what you’ll do:

After you’ve been talking to her for a few minutes, you need to walk away, let her simmer for five or six minutes or . . . twenty minutes, and let her see you talking to other people. It’s going to bring out an incredible competitive fire in her, especially if you’re speaking with other women. It doesn’t matter what the women look like, it’s sufficient that they’re just other women. Or, if you’re speaking to men, it also works if everyone is laughing because you’re giving them the best of you. All of the sudden that woman is simmering so much, that she’s going to come back because you have the power of the walk away.

You have to master the power of the walk away in order to attract beautiful women everywhere you go. This is because women love a leader, and women love men who can walk away from something right at the height of the conversation.

It’s going to make them want more . . .

and that’s what you need to create. You need to create desire in women, so they want you more.

The Value and Compliance Model for Attraction

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Value is of utmost importance in your interactions with women. It determines how willing a woman is to meet up with you, it determines a woman’s level of physical attraction for you, and ultimately, value determines how far a woman will go just to be in your life. Naturally, I get many questions from people asking me how they can increase their value: “Do I raise my value through DHV storytelling, do I lower her value through negs and indifference or do I use push / pull or what?”

Firstly you must realize that value is almost entirely based on perception. That’s right. The only value that actually exists is inside the minds of the people around you. Sure there are things that society says is valuable, like how much money you make or what kind of car you drive, and based on society’s perception, some level of value can be assigned to people. But it is still just perception. What I am going to present to you today is a fundamental model of value. What I mean is, this model determines the effect that other value-shifting techniques will have when they are used. Value shifters like stories containing DHV spikes and negs as well as social value cues like cocky humor and peacocking are all subject to this fundamental concept.

This means that all of the above mentioned techniques will work perfectly when you have this fundamental concept down, and will fall absolutely flat if you do not. How compliance relates to value

First let me steal a term from Sinn of Mystery Method. The term compliance is used to measure the willingness a girl has to do something with you or for you. Sinn tells me this concept has replaced what used to be known as ‘hoop theory’. Sinn has also written an article called ‘Negative Compliance Momentum’ wich is definitely worth checking out. In short, getting a girl to talk to you when you approach her requires some level of compliance. Getting a girl to buy you drink requires a little bit more compliance, and of course getting a girl to the point where she is open to having sex with you requires even more. Compliance is directly proportional to value. The higher your perceived value, the more compliance you will naturally get from a woman. The higher you perceive a woman’s value, the more compliant you will be to her, automatically.

Let me illustrate the fundamental nature compliance has with relation to value. If you tell a story about something off-the-wall that happened when you were chillin’ at the Playboy Mansion, it can quite potentially be a demonstration of higher value. Let’s say you use this Playboy Mansion DHV, but then she tests you by asking you to hold her drink while she dances, and you oblige. Your entire story is now negated. Since compliance is more fundamental than a story, she is perceiving your value based on the former. If instead of holding her drink, you instead explain that you might meet up with her later, then you would have been congruent and retained the value from the story. In fact, you could have been having a conversation with her about the mating patterns of the blue-jay in New England, and you would still have higher value. The Value-Compliance relationship is fundamental.

Here is where it gets interesting. The compliance scales are different for men and women. Typically, men seek compliance based in replication value. That is, they are out to get a woman’s sexual value. They want to be close to a woman, touch her, kiss her and have sex with her. Women on the other hand, seek compliance based in survival value. Traditionally, women have urges toward getting protection, shared living space, and financial support from men. In fact, if you look at the nearly extinct paradigm of dating and marriage, and make two bars representing a man and a woman’s compliance scales, the relationship becomes very clear.

Here I have made two bars, each representing a man and woman’s relative values. The height of the bar represents their perceived value. (The man and woman have equal value in this diagram) The tick marks along the side represent the levels of compliance that are available for each person. In this diagram, the man has potential to get sex from the woman, and the woman has potential to get marriage from the man.

I know some of you are laughing as you realize that most women don’t wait until marriage to have sex. That’s fine. This model is just an illustration of the compliance scales of men and women that everyone can relate to. We’ll get into some common scenarios and practical application a little later. Actually, this diagram is rather generous. In our society, the issue is further confused by the idea that a man must ‘win over’ a woman with a diamond ring in order to marry her - A frame of mind like that leaves a man with such little perceived value!

Keep in mind, the actual compliance levels are quite arbitrary. I have labeled them for illustration, but in general just remember that a woman seeks compliance related to her immediate survival and the immediate survival of her family, while a man seeks compliance related to genetic survival and accessing a healthy, beautiful woman’s genes through sex. So we will see women chasing things like emotional strength, leadership and wealth, and we will see men chasing things like pretty faces and hot bodies. Evolution has created this situation for us.

Mutual Compliance Escalation

When a man and a woman meet, and become involved with each other, they take turns being compliant to each other.

A man approaches a woman, she in turn gives him attention and talks to him. He asks her a few questions to screen her, she then complies and answers. He complies by qualifying her with a nice compliment. He asks her to go window shopping with him and she agrees, etc. On and on you go until you have reached full compliance from the woman. Unfortunately most men never even achieve full compliance from a woman, yet surrender their own full compliance all the time. It is a common mistake to believe that the more compliance you give, the more you will get from a woman and the more she will be attracted to you.

So, a man and a woman go back and forth escalating compliance in a mutual way from one rung of the ladder to the next.

Keep in mind this is not to be confused with Mutual Value Escalation, which instead means raising the levels of both of your value bars relative to the people around you via leadership, future adventure projections, teamwork / role playing frames and dominance over others. In order to move to the next level of compliance, two things are necessary. Firstly, you need perceived value of at least the same level or higher than the girl. Your value creates attraction and a willingness to comply. The second thing you need is comfort and trust. After all, women don’t go around sleeping with every guy that has higher value than them.

The purpose of comfort and trust is so the girl feels safe knowing that the compliance escalation will continue after her current action. Both of these are needed in proportion to the level of the request you are making. Being compliant to her requests is one way of developing comfort and trust, but it is recommended to only comply with small requests that you don’t mind fulfilling. Hold off on complying to the large requests at first, since it has potential to be quite detrimental to your value. Take your time with the escalation and be sure to go through the full process of screening and qualification (both false and genuine). Attraction is the result of withheld compliance. Whatever compliance a girl feels she deserves but doesn’t yet have, produces attraction to you, the source of value. Screening and qualification is what makes her feel as though your compliance is worth pursuing. The best way to engage a girl, therefore is to demonstrate high value and produce relevant qualification.

A couple other things are worth mention. Asking a person to do something, and having them reject you puts your value into flux. (We’ll talk about value flux a little later, when we discuss application) When a person declines your compliance request, it is not necessarily because they perceive your value as being low it it usually just because they aren’t sure what your value is yet. Look at a rejection as an opportunity. When your request is rejected, your value is in flux, and it is an opportunity for you to define it with your subsequent actions.

For instance, if you go to kiss a girl, and she rejects you, it’s not necessarily because she perceives your value as being low. It is simply because she’s not sure. If you go and try to kiss her again, right away, you may lose some points with her. If you get angry or upset, or otherwise deflated or thrown off your game, you will certainly lose value. If, on the other hand you are cool and nonchalant about it, or you humorously tease her and joke about it, your perceived value will increase. At that point, you can safely try again at a later time and your chances of getting the kiss will have improved. Orbiters and Let’s Just Be Friends (LJBF)

Let’s look at the special case where the man has lower perceived value than the woman.

Notice that sex is completely out of reach. No matter what a man does, he cannot get a woman of much higher value to comply to having sex with him. As a result, a woman will usually tell him “Let’s just be friends.” He becomes one of her many ‘orbiters’ and continues to fight a battle leading nowhere. In fact, there is both an instinctual and societal motivation for women to lure the men in their lives into this type of role. After all, evolutionarily, this meant more men to help raise the children she was having with the alpha male.

Realize however, that depending on how high the value is, the orbiter will be able to get some kind of compliance from the woman, even if it isn’t full-on sex. You can see that this fellow can get a kiss from her every now and then. How sweet. Also, it doesn’t mean he has to marry her to get a kiss. It is sufficient that she already knows she could get married to the guy, if she were so inclined. That is why the concept of the ‘no-challenge’ switch is so important. The woman has these men at her disposal for whatever survival value she wishes to take from them: Companionship, dates, spending money, backup for her real boyfriend, everything is fair game.

Players and Fuck-Buddy (FB) Relationships Just as common as women who collect orbiters, there are guys who sleep around with many different women, no strings attached.

Notice that marriage is completely out of reach.

There is nothing this woman can do to get this guy to marry her. In fact, in this this guy probably isn’t going to be exclusive with her. Basically, all this guy has to do is show up, talk to her and give her some good emotions, and she will have sex with him. Hence the term “Fuck-Buddy”. She does however have a chance at getting dinner every once in a while, so we can call this example an “upgraded” FB relationship. Unlike women, who have both instinctual and societal motivations to lower the perceived value of their mates, for men it is merely instinctual. Societal programming tends to motivate men into beta-provider type roles. Look around and you’ll see evidence everywhere. Deep down, our genes are telling us otherwise.

Most men, whether they admit to it or not, would love to have a few different sex partners that they aren’t committed to. After all, what kind of man doesn’t like sexual variety? From an evolutionary standpoint, these are the women that will bear his children, as he proliferates his genes. The interesting thing is, we realize that this is still a traditional mindset. The escalation of compliance levels still leads to marriage. Players in this society still usually get married if they find the “right” woman. They are searching for that one woman who has high enough value or good enough game to get them to make a commitment.

Once a man has a few girls who cater to his every need, it becomes less exciting. There’s no more challenge and nothing left to chase. What both sexes want ultimately, is high levels of compliance from high value people. In addition, the fact that sex is so high on a woman’s scale of compliance is both an outdated traditional model and unacceptable for our purposes.

In fact, I will go so far to say that the true fundamental goal of a real pickup artist is to lower the effective compliance of sex, and move it lower on the scale.

Reverse Supplication Levels

What many guys realize as they become better with women, is that sex isn’t necessarily at the very top of a woman’s compliance scale.

We’ve all seen women who do everything for their men. They buy them gifts, cook them dinner and clean their apartments. There are women who would practically die for their men. We also know about pimps who have their hoes out on the streetcorner, every night making money for them. These women are selling their bodies to strangers to earn money so that their men are taken care of.

Talk about a high level of compliance! At first, it may seem completely unreal to ever have women that compliant to you. After all, there are many guys who cannot even get their girlfriends to call have sex with them!

It turns out to be quite easy, actually, and is based on a few simple dynamics. There are all kinds of levels of compliance that reside beyond sex, leading up to full compliance which is defined as willingness to either die for a man or commit her life to his cause. Prostitution fits this basic definition close enough. The levels that reside beyond sex leading all the way up to prostitution are called the reverse supplication levels. I have defined reverse supplication as a man receiving survival-type compliance from a woman. Inserting the reverse supplication levels into a woman’s compliance scale gives us Fig. 3a.

As you can see I have filled in some examples into the reverse supplication levels. Dinner, clothing, a new car, all the way leading up to prostitution. Playing at that level is pimp game and I’m not interested in that right now. Between sex and prostitution is a very real region, of which holds many interesting possibilities.

Just the simple acknowledgment of these levels lowers the effective compliance of sex. Bringing these levels into existence by reaching for them will make sex come that much easier. Value is only perception, and if you are overshooting the goal of sex by making larger requests, you can be perceived as having extremely high value. In other words, if all you want is sex, the best way to get it, is to simply set your sights BEYOND it.

<ul><li> Ask a girl to write you a poem or draw you a picture * Ask her what kind of girls she likes before you’ve even slept with her

<li>Assume you’re going to sleep with other girls in her social circle before you’ve even slept with her * Find out if she has any connections to club owners and tell her you’d like VIP access</ul>

Keep in mind, you aren’t taking value from others, you are merely increasing your own perceived value, such that everything you give is appreciated to a higher degree. It will make everything you do that much more powerful. People will be more likely to listen to you, more likely to laugh at your jokes and more likely to try to get rapport with you. I won’t go too far into this here, but the basic formula for escalating compliance is to take it one small step at a time. We aren’t talking a few dates, this stuff can take months. Compliance is pliable. When you have a woman at breaking point and push her threshold, her maximum level of compliance increases.

Another key is making it fun and worthwhile for a woman to do these things. Make your requests that are related to your identity. If you are a chef, have her pick up some groceries so you can prepare a romantic dinner. If you are an artist, have her pick up a new set of brushes, and let her watch you create a masterpiece. Build a lifestyle in which the two of you can share. Though this article is only a small portion of my entire reverse supplication method, it is still powerful enough to warrant two points of caution. Firstly, do not use this method for abuse. Women do these things because they love us and care for us. Don’t run this on a poor college girl, and don’t run it on a woman you aren’t willing to be straight with. Use it carefully to develop your lifestyle and enhance the experiences that you share together. Secondly, don’t ever become so dependent that you lose responsibility for yourself. If it ever gets to the point that you cannot maintain your finances or keep your apartment clean all by yourself, you’ll be in trouble. Trust me on this one.

Set High Expectations

When it comes to value, nothing beats having high expectations of other people and putting a price on yourself.

So many guys are willing to sacrifice their own best interests in order to make a girl happy, or to get together with her. Don’t go driving two hours out of the way just to see her, don’t ditch your buddies to hang out with her, and don’t volunteer to buy her dinner if you’ve just met her. In addition, you should expect women to respect you and treat you well. If you compliment a woman, expect her to respond positively to it. Many guys fail with compliments because they don’t hold her to high expectations and instead continue to be nice to her after she has disrespected them by ignoring the compliment.

Make a woman commit to giving you full attention when you are communicating with her, whether it be in person, on the phone or even in a chat room. Also be willing to walk away if she doesn’t meet your standards. There are plenty of women that will. Most of the time a willingness to walk will only help you, and draw them in closer. The best way to punish bad behavior is with indifference. Any reaction whatsoever is actually a reward, because it telegraphs your emotional investment. Sometimes it helps to make it absolutely clear what she did wrong in a dominant, (not angry) voice, and then follow it with indifference, both physical and verbal.

Value Flux and Reward Calibration

There are times in an interaction with a woman when your value is in flux. That is, your value has no definition. Realize that this is not necessarily a bad thing but rather an opportunity to define it.

The first situation that causes value flux was mentioned above - it is when you make a compliance request. For example you try to kiss her, and she either obliges or rejects you. Your value is then defined by your reaction to it. The second situation is when a girl displays good behavior. That is, she does something to indicate a higher level of compliance then where she was at previously. For example: she calls you, she follows you as you lead her around the club, or she buys you a new pair of shoes. These are all examples of good behavior.

Good behavior should never be punished, except in small amounts. In general it should be rewarded. Sometimes punishing good behavior in small amounts works to confuse her and obsess about you. Major jumps in positive compliance in her part should be rewarded. But how should her good behavior be rewarded?

Let’s take a look what happens when a woman does something good, and your value is in flux.

In this example, the woman has kissed you. In general this behavior is in the right direction and should be rewarded. There is a wide range of ways to do this, but keep in mind, your reward will define your value, and therefore how she responds to you in the future. Let’s say after the kiss, you decide to make her your girlfriend and be exclusive to her. See Figure 4b.

So the girl kisses you, and you decide to be exclusive to her. You start the “relationship talk” and tell her you’ve decided that you only want to see her. Bad move. It would probably result in her telling you to take a hike, unless she’s a virgin and kissing is pretty high on her scale anyway. Since exclusivity is pretty high on your compliance scale, transposing your value bar so that it lines up with kissing would result in an extremely low perceived value.

Ok let’s see what happens instead if you merely give her a compliment after she has kissed you.

As we see there, rewarding her kiss with a simple compliment goes a lot further. You will create a much higher perceived value for yourself, and in the process increase your chances of more positive responses in the future. By creating a large amount of perceived value, you present yourself as a challenge to be overcome. A woman will realize that her efforts will be both appreciated and at the same time, it will be an interesting chase.

Previously I mentioned that it is the ultimate goal to lower the effective level of sexual compliance. That is, get it as low as possible on the compliance scale. Using these concepts, it shouldn’t be very difficult. Eventually it will get to a point where it hits the bottom and drops off her scale altogether.

The True Alpha Male

Although both value bars for the man and woman may be high, through skillful game and correct attitudes, the effective compliance of sex will eventually drop off the bottom of the woman’s bar.

Where does it go once that happens? To your compliance scale.

Any given interaction between a man and a woman must appear on either the man or the woman’s side. (One party always wants something a little bit more than the other, no matter how slight the difference may be) So it may not have a lot of weight, but it is going to show up on one of the scales. If you reduce the compliance of sex so much that it disappears from the woman’s bar, it must appear on your side. This is what happens when you truly become the prize of the interaction.

The flipped compliance scales, where a man is chased for his replication value and his woman contributes to the bulk of their survival value.

This situation represents a natural and fundamental scenario of a true alpha male. This happens when the highest value that a woman can contribute is her energy and resources, and the highest contribution the man can make is his genes.

This is the difference between a real alpha male and what the general population believes is alpha. Since most people identify alphas with taking up space, walking slow and talking very loud, this is a significant improvement. Keep in mind although full compliance is defined here as prostitution, it doesn’t mean the girls are actually selling themselves at full compliance, it just means that they would be willing to and their man knows fully he has that power over them.

While most men are out there struggling just to get the pussy, you can rise above that. I invite you now to imagine fully what is possible. Don’t set your goals so low that you would be thrilled just to get laid. Realize the bigger picture of what is possible. Live a lifestyle where women are making your dreams come true in every area of your life.

In what ways can a woman support your aspirations and contribute to your happiness? Allow them to bring you excitement and energy, and imagine a life where they are doing all of this simply for the opportunity to please you sexually.

Desire = Lower Value

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There’s no way around it. If you want a specific woman real badly, you won’t get her. Why? Maybe it’s because nature has a cruel sense of humor, but the important thing is that this is nature, and that is a rule.

If you want a thing really badly and you would do anything to get it, you will get it.

If you want a woman really badly and you would do anything to get her, forget it.

How do we solve this problem? Doesn’t this create an incongruence? No. For me, this is part of what creates the Zen of meeting women. Most good looking women have an incongruence with guys. When most guys see them, they see perfection. But when they see themselves, they see faults and how they could be better.

You know that feeling you get when an unattractive woman is all over you because she thinks you’re hot? You think “it’s cool but I could do better.” That is you when you’re drooling over a hot woman. She wants you to see her how she sees herself: a person with lots of faults, lots of insecurities, lots of room for improvement, and who is nowhere near perfect.

She’s used to her body, she sees it everyday, it’s normal, and she sees past that. She expects you to do the same. If you’re treating her any differently because of her looks, in her mind you’re a caveman; you’re the simpleton who hasn’t grown past it. You know there’re lots of 5s who want you, but it’s just not something you chose to focus on. You focus on the challenges.

So how do we become desirable?

Other women.

Other women are the key that opens a lot of gates. I don’t care if this woman is your first date ever. If you communicate the fact that if she doesn’t go out with you, other women will, she will be the first one lined up with all of her make-up.

Women are very competitive. Imagine you’re starving in the desert, and there’s a guy with one juicy burger, but he has to choose between you and another five people whom to give that burger. That’s the kind of competitiveness women have.

Women know a lot of this, especially the hottest ones. They have it internalized because unlike you and me, they had no choice about learning it. They have been getting approached over and over and desired by plenty of guys since they were in high school.

This is why desire = lower value. Every other guy acts the same way.

Use the jealousy plotline in every interaction. Tell a story about how you just met the craziest three German women ever, and how you went to the movies and got kicked out because you were all laughing so hard. It doesn’t matter if it’s true, it matters that she has to take you because otherwise you’re going to have a wild party with those other women and then she missed out.

She’s not that important and she knows it. She just wants regular treatment. Punish bad behavior. Reward good behavior. And for the rest talk about stuff that’s cooler than her.

For the longest time I killed myself trying to figure out what “talking about stuff that’s cooler than her” did. What I realized is that this means talking about cooler people and events than her. Tell a story about the club promoter and how you made up some names like John Smith and Marilyn Monroe to get on the list so you could bring random friends that called you afterwards. Tell her about the party you just threw downtown where all your crazy friends showed up and you all had a blast, and how the place ended up looking like a mess after.

The secret to saying stuff like that is always focusing on the lousy part, so it doesn’t look like you’re bragging. So if you had just bought a BMW, you’d say “I just got my first BMW. It’s not exactly the one I wanted, but hey, it’s a start.”

Talking about the cool people you know or events you attended is a huge display of your positive qualities for a lot of women. The hottest women are very value oriented, so the more value you and your life have, the more value you have to them. So just treat her like a dork, and tell her about you hanging out with your model friends. Always tell her “they’re my friends.” If she asks for more, tell her “they’re just my friends, just like you and I are friends.”

In my experience, this is the way to get hot women out of their shells and get them to chase you. It puts them in a competitive state of mind.

The important thing is never to get distracted and change your state of mind because they just want you to chase after them. You have to be like the carrot dangling at the end of the stick. Foster the illusion that she will never get you, and then act like “it just happened.”

Tell her “hey, we’re just friends.” When you show her proof that you hang out with lots of hot women, she will inevitably let it slip that she wants to be a part of it. Treat that as a test. Do not let her in. Keep her always chasing you until you are in your apartment, then make out with her and go as far as you want. That way “it just happened.”

Focus on the one you want and you will fail. Focus on other women and display that to her and you will be in control. The person with the least interest in an interaction has all the control. For us guys, the way to keep this control is by the threat of other women snatching you. Keep that in mind.

Buying Drinks

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A lot of guys ask me the question “is it okay for me to buy her a drink?” It’s actually a controversial subject among guys who teach others how to meet women. Some people will say “never,” because it makes you look supplicant, or needy, while others say you should always do it.

Personally, I don’t think it’s a big deal.

You certainly don’t want to give the impression that you are bribing a woman into talking to you. That’s why I generally advise that you don’t open a conversation with “can I buy you a drink?” However, at a certain place in an interaction, it’s totally appropriate to do this.

Usually, when I buy a woman a drink, it’s 5-10 minutes into the conversation. At this point, we’re moving past small talk and silly jokes and entering the “getting to know you” kind of conversation. When she says something funny, or interesting, trying to impress you a bit, that is the time to buy a drink for a woman. By waiting until the right moment, you make her feel as though she has earned your interest (buying a drink shows interest, obviously) by impressing you.

I also don’t just say “what do you want?” and walk off. Buying a drink is a good opportunity to go for a little walk around the bar, and perhaps speak to her in a more private situation. If she’s surrounded by friends (and most beautiful women are), a walk to the bar is the easiest and most natural way to get her away from them so you can speak with her one-on-one. Getting a woman one-on-one is a very important step in building the kind of deep attraction that you need in order to meet up with her again.

One disclaimer though - if she’s already drunk, don’t buy her another drink. Not only is it morally wrong to ply women with alcohol, but it’s much more likely to ruin your interaction with a woman than make it better. There’s nothing worse than meeting a really sweet woman at 10PM, only to find out at 1AM she’s a rambling, annoying drunk. Sober women are more fun, more interesting and much more likely to answer the phone when you call (or come home with you, for that matter).

Are Your Openers Satisfying?

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I’m at the point where almost anything will open. But what I’m looking for is openers that lead into a lot of other good stuff. My best openers are the ones that flow seamlessly into routines, qualifying, and stuff like that. I guess if you deliver the opener enough times you can find those seamless transitions, but some openers just don’t lend themselves to it.

For the record, I hate neutral opinion openers. I can execute them just fine and all, but I hardly ever do. Yeah sure they get the chick talking and buy you another minute, but they’re just too blah for me. Some of these openers just leave me feeling sort of- I don’t know- less than satisfied. They give me that not-so-fresh feeling.

Here’s a good example of one that works, the Cotton Candy Opener:

Go up to a woman and say “Hey, do you know anyplace to get cotton candy around here this time of night?”

This flows into the following:

1. I’m immediately mentally qualifying her based on her answer. A druggy will think I’m talking about drugs. Someone with no sense of humor will tell me a serious answer like “Wal-Mart.” Cool women know it’s a joke, and they joke back. They sense I’m qualifying them, and it’s a good thing.

2. A woman will often ask why you asked her that. I say “because you look like you go to the circus a lot.” This is confusing and mystifying. I’m not sure why, but it works. I think it’s some kind of an off-beat tease. Then I ask when was the last time she went to the circus, and if the answer is never I lead into “were you an under-privileged ghetto child?” If she has been, I let her talk a moment about childhood memories. Only rarely will a woman get totally offended by the circus thing, about 1 in 50 I’d say.

3. I say “where I’m from you can get it anytime 24/7 cause there’s a Mexican guy who sells it on the corner at 3am.” She’ll ask “where are you from?” I make her guess. Now we’re in a guessing game. I might start guessing stuff about her too, which can lead into psychic-type routines. “I’m from New York City” I eventually tell them, which makes me instantly cooler than the women. They’re in awe of you if you say you’re from New York City. (Well, unless you’re actually in New York City in which case you need to switch it up a bit. Like say Los Angeles, or Queens.)

4. This leads into a “reckon/yonder” routine, which is where I make fun of wherever it is that she’s from. “Do you use the word reckon? How about yonder… how ’bout fixin’” This stuff makes me much cooler than the woman.

5. This leads into “do you crawl through cow fields in the middle of the night looking for psychedelic mushrooms growing in cow shit, ’cause my friend Carl told me a story about that and I think it’s gross.”

Okay, by that point she’s hooked, and I may be escalating physically, or I may have decided that she’s not worth my time and I move on to the next set.

Mastery

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To master game so that you can consistently get the type of relationships you want, not only with women in the general sense, but with that special woman that you want, it requires a lot of knowledge and practice to get there. To attain mastery there are five main areas you have to master. This list is a broad view of the main concepts you need to grasp.

Attraction

- the ability to attract a woman to you.

This can be learned and is, surprisingly, the easiest area to master. When a woman is around you her attraction to you is very rooted in her emotional state. Personality conveyance techniques that fall into this area include demonstration of higher value (DHV) stories and embeds, push/pull, cold reading, mini cold reads, future projections, teasing/negs, elastic bands, cocky and funny, drama lines, AMOGing, plotlines, magic, emotional talk and kino and chase cycling. Getting kino (touching) is a key part of this - not only does touching increase attraction, but it also a requirement for things escalating into something truly romantic. Chase cycling gets the girl to chase you - another critical element for solid interactions.

Value

- what your perceived value to her is.

Women actually do get very logical about the men in their lives - they do this when they are not being emotional. So even if you attract a woman in a venue, the next day she is thinking about returning your call/text - you are not around, she is not being emotional, so she thinks logically about you. She thinks about how you fit in her world, attraction aside because there are a lot of guys she is attracted to and she doesn’t continue interactions with most of them. She thinks about positive things like - would her friends approve? Are you physically good looking? Do other women like you? Do you have a lot of friends? Are you a “tribal leader”? Are you rich or famous? She is also thinking negative things (your disqualifiers) such as are you bald, old, fat, poor, dangerous or ugly? Additionally, she weights your current value against her current options (like her boyfriend). If you don’t come up on top - you are out. For maximum consistency, a man has to learn to communicate/demonstrate their real world value while he is with her - so when she does get logical you still win! Real world value has to be real (I don’t encourage any man to ever lie to a woman) and convincingly communicated - so this area can be tough for some people. If relationships were just about attraction, then mastery would be easy - but its not.

Comfort

- how safe and comfortable she feels around you.

Comfort is where you have to master being normal and really getting to know each other. Mystery discovered that you have to spend between 4 to 10 hours with a woman either in person or on the phone before sexual escalation can safely begin without causing buyer’s remorse. Techniques for this include DHV-embedded activities and talk (palmistry, magic, dancing, cooking grill cheese sandwiches, massage, sailing with friends, singing, home made movies are some of my favorites), vibing, grounding, vulnerable communication, plotlines, more future projections, sexual/emotional talk, time distortion and rapport building conversational skills.

Chillness

- Normality.

The single biggest problem that the guys that learn the skill set have as a group is coming off WEIRD. Bottom line, even if you can levitate objects and are the funniest guy on earth, none of that matters if you don’t come off completely normal, chill and non-weird. For a lot of guys this is a tough nut to crack. From an instruction point of view, we spend a lot of time on body language, physical touch, vocal tonality, normal delivery, and appearance/dress to get guys more normal. We spend an equally great amount of time to eliminate all the quirks guys collect over years of rejection that make them non-normal. The latter consists of all the reaction-seeking, the leaning-in, the nervous twitching, the jumpy personality, the strange pauses in vocal delivery and this list goes on (trust me - I’ve see it all). Most guys don’t know that they are doing any of these negative behaviors (and don’t understand why they are bad), so this is where in field instruction is an absolute must.

Love

-Sex and Relationships.

Most men don’t have anywhere near enough experience to be able to really create amazing loving and sexual relationships with women. They don’t satisfy the women that they have worked so hard to get. Are you honestly and realistically communicating to her about how she fits in your life? Do you create comfortable situations for the woman to open up sexually? Does she alter her schedule for you? Do your relationships last? Is the sex hot? Does she obsess over you? Does she want to repeat your sexual encounter over and over and over again? Do you end your relationships appropriately? This is the last area of mastery because to master it you have to have the above 4 covered -otherwise you don’t have the opportunities to get this right.

On top of all that all of this has to be sequenced right!

Guys Are Like Laptops

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Most guys get really worried when they are confronted with a shit test. They breathe faster, and they being to sweat as they hope they’ll give the right answer. That’s because they feel that shit tests are bad things. Shit tests are chances to show how attractive you are. They keep out all the other chodes who aren’t as attractive as you and give you a chance to shine.

Think about it from the perspective of you buying a laptop. If the price was way too high and unattainable you won’t even bother checking it out, or if it was clearly shitty and useless you wouldn’t look at it either.

But, if it looked like an amazing opportunity, such as a really cool looking one with great specs, that happened to be right there in front of you on sale, you would be interested- but hesitant. And you’ll ask yourself the following questions:

Why is it on sale?

Is it really a good deal, or does it just appear to be one?
Is there a hidden cost or negative about it that I don’t see yet?
Should I take it home?

You’ll start trying to find anything possibly wrong with the deal, looking deep into the hidden specifications, testing durability, size, weight, battery life, and basically figuring out if it really is what you hope it is- an amazing opportunity. This is the same as a girl shit testing you because, if she clearly isn’t interested in you, that’s one thing- but if you are a seemingly cool, alpha, high value guy coming to approach her- she’ll be interested but hesitant. She’ll ask herself the following questions:

Why is he approaching me?
Is he really this amazing guy, or is it just a front/facade?
Is there something I don’t know about him yet that’s bad or negative?
Should I take him home?

The good news is, in both situations, the buyer/the girl is secretly hoping that this really is the chance of a lifetime and that everything is as amazing and perfect as it seems. So next time a girl starts giving you shit tests, think of it as an opportunity and not an obstacle. No matter how bitchy she may seem, she’s a sweetheart deep down, so appreciate that shit tests are just your chance to show how awesome you are. Have fun!

Observational Transitioning With Examples

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One of the hardest things for new guys when it comes to cold approach is making conversations seem smooth and unstrained. This is especially true right after the opener, when you are about to turn the opener into a “normal conversation” (in other words, moving into the Attraction phase). This is nothing new, and both Sinn and Savoy have been dishing out stuff about this for awhile.

The easiest way to transition in my opinion is by using observational transitions. These carry a number of advantages such as:

1. Piques her interest right off the bat as this isn’t what every guy does and what you are saying is interesting.
2. It involves cold reads, which almost always gets a good reaction (and by a good reaction I mean something that helps you move the interaction forward).
3. You can easily display playfulness and humor with them.
4. They often lead you into another routine.
5. You can build interesting and playful “minimum input” routine series with them.

Here’s the basis of delivering observational transitions: when you are about to (falsely) leave the woman or group after the opener, you notice something about a person (or persons) in the group that you just have to tell them about. The great thing about this is that they actually don’t have to do anything to make you say this! In other words, you can use the same observational transition for every interaction and create routines for which you use the same transition every time. You can use this routine as training to get some live experience under your belt and work on your delivery, or you can use it as a back-up whenever you feel like you need it.

“Well, I could build routines with phrasal transitions too” you might say. Well sure, but in my experience interactions tend to go better and people listen more closely to what I have to say if I use cold reads and get their attention and then jump into my longer DHV stories than the other way around. Beyond that, cold reads and “observational transitions” are powerful tools that you can throw in pretty much anywhere in the interaction, so it’s useful to learn a few of them anyway.

So what are some ideas for observational transitions? I have listed a few that I personally use (so you deliver your opener, then body rock as if you are about to leave and then fire out one of these babies):

* “Oh my god I just noticed something… you guys are pretty good friends, aren’t you?” [Go into the Best Friends Test routine]

* “Hey, I just noticed… your eyes tend to slant downwards and to the left when I talk to you. My ex-girlfriend taught me that people who do that tend to be in touch with their feelings. They seem to listen and follow their feelings a lot. Would you consider yourself a person who listens more to her feelings than pure logic?”
[They answer and I follow up with:] “Yeah, because I like to do that too… actually, that very trait has led me to some great adventures… [and off I go into a story]

* “I just noticed… you have a U-shaped smile.” [and into C vs. Us routine]

* “Hey, where did you get those shoes?! I was out shopping with a friend of mine the other day and she was looking everywhere for a pair of shoes like that… you do know that if that pair you’re wearing was the last pair, then you are in some serious trouble!” If said to the target, I sometimes add: “I think I hate you now. You and I are so not going to get along. You made me spend four hours looking for those damn shoes!” [From here I continue with “Actually, speaking of my friend, she has this interesting theory...” and then off into a routine]

* [They answer your opinion opener] Hmm… let me see your hands. Yeah, just like I expected.” [They’ll ask “what, what?” and you go into Finger Length routine]

* “Geez, it’s amazing. My ex-girlfriend has this “doppelganger” theory and it basically says that every person has an identical twin in the world, and you look exactly like my last girlfriend/aunt/sister/cousin/the girl I met last week. [and then go into a story about that person]

* [Pause the opener, look at her and say:] “The way you stand when you talk to me… [pause] gives me the feeling that you’re pretty confident and friendly… am I right? (As you may notice this could very well be used in the Qualification phase, like many other cold reads that say something about her.)

* “Hey by the way, did you pick the finger you are wearing that ring on?” [and go into the Ring Finger routine]

* “Hmm… something about you makes me think you are a pretty bad liar. We have to play the lying game to see if that’s true. [and into the 5 Questions Game]

* “Hey it’s so cute, your nose wiggles when you talk and that totally reminds me of my ex-girlfriend and the time we went to… [and into a story]

There you have some ideas for observational transitions. Play around with these and come up with some of your own. Now you know an easy way to transition from your opener to your attraction material, which often is a big sticking point for new guys.

A good exercise for in-field improvisation is to make up your own “cold read” (or something you’ve noticed about a person or persons) on the spot. I like to do this because it’s fun and I get a kick out of improvising. I’ll say: “Hey, I noticed you have blue eyes, just like me. Did you know that they say that people who have blue eyes are more spontaneous and adventurous? Too bad you have blonde hair; you don’t want to know what they say about that…”

Remember, the more natural a transition feels the more likely it will be a good one. By practicing you will make these feel very natural, but if you come up with something on the spot that feels more natural then by all means use that one.

Trouble Hooking Your Sets?

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So – I’ve notice a weakness in in a lot of guys which I’ve sought to strengthen. It’s a common problem.

You open a set. Yippee. Then you try and have a chat with the girl, it goes nowhere, she excuses herself, buggers off. Sound familiar?

Well - I think I have broken down the necessary missing piece of the puzzle.

It’s really simple actually – people aren’t hooking their sets.

“Bah!” you say. “We know about hooking. It’s an old concept. You open, get to hook point, and then go on with the sarge, building comfort, qualifying etc… get the hell out of here with your hooking!!”

Ok, I hear ya. But HOW do you hook the set? A lot of guys KNOW what a hook point is – but they are nevertheless not hooking their sets! What qualities make it a solid hook? What do you talk about? What emotions should you be expressing? What should you be sub-communicating?”

What I’ve done is actually broken down my formula for the hook point.

So, how do you hook?

Well, let me introduce you to another word that you don’t often hear in the community.

Banter.

Yeah. Banter. Chit chat. Small talk. Yatter. THAT is really one of the key elements here.

If you open a girl with “Hey you’re hot, I just had to meet you, etc” then go straight into “so, where you from” you’re asking her to qualify herself to you straight away. Why would she do this? Who are you? Sure If you’re Brad Pitt, she would do it. If you’re wearing a $5000 suit, maybe. If you roll up with two underwear models by your sides, it might also work.

But, chances are, you’re just a regular Joe, not swimming around in oodles of cash at your seaside mansion. So – you need to demonstrate value early (immediately) and effectively so that she’ll stick around long enough for you to get to know her. Right?

Right.

So – Banter, byatches!! The key words after Banter are FUN. INTRIGUE or PASSION.

Something where you create DRAMA. Something so exciting that you actually PULL the girl into YOUR reality.

Now I want to be clear, this is NOT a DHV story!

You’re demonstrating that you’re a fun, passionate person. That you have personality – that you are excited about life. That you have pizzazz!! (wow, I’ve actually used the word pizzazz! Ha!)

When you put this across - you ARE showing higher value anyways – but I just wanted to differentiate between the classic mystery method idea of DHVing and what I’m trying to put across – which is really just being a fun person, interesting, passionate person…

So – what can/should your hook be? That’s the beauty. It can be absolutely anything. Something that happened to you that day is best, or that week. The more recent the better. Again if it’s fresh and exciting to YOU, it will be exciting to the girl. It can be something that happened to you ages ago – but preferably only if you’re a good actor. ; )

Okay some examples:

A classic

Hey you won’t believe what just happened! Some guy just grabbed my butt on the street!! I couldn’t believe it!! After I rejected him he wanted to buy me a DRINK! Can you believe that!! What do you girls do when that happens?

from one of my comedy routines

Hey! I just went to Burger King and I had to get a token to take a POO! How humiliating! Can you believe IT! There are a few things in this world I though I’d never have to pay for- and pooing is one of them!! (transition: “I know. I get pretty angry over the little things! Haha… so what drives YOU girls crazy??”

from a student the other day

I just told my boss to fuck off and got fired!! Aah! I’m a bum!! Are you looking to hire anyone? I give good backrubs. I can type 60 words a minute! I’ll do anything!! You look like you need a personal assistant!! I’ll do aaaaaaaanything!! Ok ok I’m kidding. You guys probably have crappy jobs anyways (haha) – what do u guys get up to??

one of mine based on a comedy routine

Hey guys!! Don’t go that way there’s Christians trying to convert people! They’re giving away free tea – but the price is, they try and sell you on Jesus! Don’t go!! Unless you love jesus already – then it’s ok, hehe! It’s so weird, the religious people follow me around EVERYWHERE!! Everywhere I go, they’re right behind me!! It’s like they’re stalking me!! You guys are cute, I’m sure you know what I’m talking about. ; )

It really, really can be anything – As long as:

You come in with high energy
- not even necessarily HIGH energy. As long as you are enthusiastic! Enthusiasm is contagious. This works whether the set is high enery or low energy. If they are like totally chill, you want to have just a bit of a buzz around you. If they are excited, you can come in a bit excited. If you try and “out-excite” someone you may just freak them out. Remember: You’re not trying to impress them with your raw energy – you want to put across that you are really excited/outraged about something that has just happened! PASSION is the key word here!

As long as you’re having fun, and are genuinely interested about whatever you’re going on about, you should hook the set. After that, you just have to transition properly. So if they are into what you are saying, laughing etc all it takes is:

“hey, you guys have a sense of humour! I LOVE peeps with a sense of humour…you guys are my PEOPLE!! So, what’s shaking?

“Hey, you guys are cool! I love people who can appreciate the drama that is my life. Haha. So…. Anything crazy happened to you recently?”

And then you’re off to rapport building / qualification land

Remember: you’re trying to get their genuine attention, which is better than situational attention. I.E If you’re outraged at some crappy sandwich you bought (although this is situational) you can really be ranting about it – you can create drama – you got ripped off!! You paid for a shitty sandwich!!! By the way, the hook CAN be the opener. Sometimes I’ll just go right into whatever my drama is and that’s perfectly fine. This works really well, because it hooks them straight away - however, a purely situational opener such as “Hey! That’s the coolest dress I’ve ever seen, it’s awesome!” can crash and burn easily because the woman can just say “Hey, thanks!” and keep walking. Interaction over! But when you’re ranting excitedly over some thing, this or that – you’re actually trying to put something across that she doesn’t already know (i.e. that she has nice clothes, or that she’s HOT) so there’s a reason for her to stink around momentarily. Especially if she’s being entertained. Women LOVE to be entertained. Most of them are, in fact, BORED.

My daygame formula is this:

So the basic formula (for me) is the same, being this

OPEN – HOOK – COMFORT/RAPPORT/QUALIFICATION/ESCALATION – CLOSE

For simplicity’s sake, in this post I’ll assume CLOSE means # close. But by all means go for instant dates or even F closes but usually for daygame most guys in most spots are just after the girls #.

Now, don’t freak out because COMFORT/RAPPORT/QUALIFICATION/ESCALATION seems like a lot of shit to do. It’s not because you don’t HAVE to do all of that. You don’t always have to escalate. You don’t always have to build comfort/rapport. You don’t always have to qualify. Shit, you don’t even always have to attract. Probably you want to do one (preferably more) of those things or the girl will flake 90% of the time. But you CAN get to the hook point, do some banter, tell the girl she’s fun and # close. It’s just not going to be as solid as if you have a nice solid chat with her where you tell her some awesome/crazy story, qualify her a bit, then # close.

Now that I’ve actually had a few students I’ve trained in daygame I can tell very clearly where most guys are going wrong.

Most guys go straight from the OPEN to comfort! That conversation goes like this

PUA: Hey baby, you’re so cute, I had to come over and talk to you!

Girl: Aww that’s sweet! Hehe!

PUA: So, what’s your name? Where are you from?

Girl:
Uhh, I’m really late – I gotta go.

Say bye bye.

What happened? Why girl say bye bye??

Because:

a) those are terrible afc things to say that every guy says and you seem an unoriginal sort of fellow – the woman is already bored
b) it feels like a pickup (worse, an unoriginal one)
c) Mainly – WHY is she going to answer your questions?? Who the fuck are you that she’s going to qualify herself to you? Or answer your queries? Is there an “I” over her head??

The other thing guys try and do is this

PUA: Hey baby, you’re so cute, I had to come over and talk to you!

Girl: Aww that’s sweet! Hehe!

PUA: So, can I get your number?

Eek!

Or “Hey, let’s get a drink some time”

Amazingly you will have SOME success with this. If the compliment is sincere and she thinks you’re cute, maaaaaaaaybe. Looks are much more of a factor in this, because it’s virtually all they have to go on. But it’s weak game.

Some guys will HOOK, and then go into AFC game

Where you from?

What’s your name?

What you doing in London?

Again – if you open well and hook well, you CAN get away with this. Yeah, you can get numbers. But it’s still weak.

Let’s look at the scary bit again:

COMFORT/RAPPORT/QUALIFICATION/ESCALATION

You’ve got to do SOME of that to get a solid #. A good story and just seeing what kind of music/movies she likes can be enough.

Unless you’re Casanova, then you can go from open to close (f close, even) but I’ll presume most people here aren’t dragging girlies home off the street.

Quick note:

Now there’s an element of sub communication but it’s not really critical. I’m only really starting to clue into sub communication myself- but when you’re hooking these sets what you’re sub communicating with your excitement is that you’re a PASSIONATE man. I mean if you’re creating this much FUN because you paid too much for a sandwich, how much fun would you be to go on a date/hang out with If you were going to go and do something that was actually interesting?

When you get this down, you really can hook every set, hard, fast and DEEP. You can have so much fun with a girl in one minute that her friends cannot DRAG them away from you.

Anywho I got a bit off topic as this post was meant to be just about hooking but- there you have it.

BANTER YOU FUCKERS

FUN

PASSION

INTRIGUE

You get me, blud?

Scene, innit.

Extreme Multiple Threading

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I’ve tried to write this a few times before but have had trouble getting it into words, let’s see how it goes.

So, as beginners when we think about building attraction through verbal game, the first thing that comes to mind is power lines, negs, or magic pills/bullets/routines. We all have them, use them, and love them. From Mystery’s “OMG, we’d never get along, we’re too similar” to Swingcat’s pro-active prizing to Tyler’s “Ok we’re broken up…no wait, we’re back together”. Now, there’s a very right way to deliver these, and a very wrong way. Lets start with a good delivery…

HB:
Blah blah, i like Paris.
PUA: OMG, I like Paris too, we’d never get along, we’re too similar.
HB & PUA: hahahah
HB: haha you don’t get along with people similar?
PUA: blah blah

OK, seems to be good right? Sure - looks to be a smooth delivery, she kept the conversation going, invested, etc. And certainly you can run sets this way, and over time you may build solid attraction. But a few adjustments in timing and with the same line you can build massive attraction very very quickly. Let’s look at a horrible delivery.

HB: Blah blah, I like Paris.
PUA: OMG, I like Paris too, we’d never get along, we’re too similar.
HB & PUA: hahahahha
HB & PUA: ha ha ha
HB & PUA: ha
HB: So you don’t get along with people similar?

Ok, subtle difference, but in this instance the PUA is REACTION SEEKING, waiting for the line to sink in to maximize effect - little does he know the longer he lets her reflect on what he’s said, the quicker it loses effect. Lets look at a great delivery-

HB:
blah blah, I like Paris
PUA: OMG, I like Paris too, we’d never get along, we’re too similar
HB: hahaha-
PUA: So tell me Sarah, when is the last time you did something really spontaneous and crazy?

In this case, the PUA doesn’t even give her a chance to process the line, he cuts her laughter short and immediately slams her into a different gear - she’s going from recieving humor to accessing and assessing memories, and judging which will be most impressive to the PUA. It’s this slamming through different gears that can create MAJOR attraction FAST.

If you’ve read any of my recent FR’s or LR’s (I’ll start posting more too), you’ll see that they all look like…

GG: So when’s the last time you were in Barcelona
HB: blah blah blah
GG: That’s cool, so one day i was walking and blank happened, ever seen blank?
HB: blah blah blah

The reason I leave the HB response as “blah blah blah” is not that I don’t remember, it’s that IT DOES NOT MATTER. Sure, later on I’ll be interested in getting to know her as a person, but in the first few minutes the only thing on my mind is to build attraction. And when building attraction the HB is pretty much IRRELEVANT. What does this mean? Well, it means you don’t need her to build attraction, in fact, I’m willing to bet a deaf person could build serious verbal attraction just as well as anyone else. Let’s look at a common pitfall people make when talking to a bouncy/talkative girl.

PUA: So, when’s the last time you were in Barcelona?
HB: Omg, I was there in July, i loved it!
PUA: Oh really? Me too, i was there in August, how cool was _____
HB: Yeah totally, omg and my friend was with me and she bla bla bla
PUA: uhuh…
HB: and then we bla bla blal blalbalblbalbalbalbalbalbalbalbalablbalbalbllbalbalbalba
PUA: Really?
HB: And then john did bla bla bla, and omg it was sooooo funny! and bla bla bla
PUA: haha, cool!

Again, looks like a good conversation - but it’s not going to build serious intense attraction. Not the type that will allow you as a PUA to say “hey, shut up, come here…*kiss*” See, common sense tells us “ok great, she’s telling me all these experiences she’s had, shes investing in the conversation, she’s getting excited about things, it’s going great”- but as we know, common sense can go to hell. Let’s see how that could have been done better:

PUA: So, when’s the last time you were in Barcelona?
HB: OMG, I was there in July, I loved it!
PUA: Oh cool, so then you know how at _____ there’s a big _____, right?
HB: I didnt go there, but omg my friend was with me and she bla bla bla
PUA: HOLD ON! Are you actually wearing green socks?!?!??!
HB: haha, ummmm.
PUA: OMG, You are! You’re such a dorkus! Haha, I bet you were on the chess team in grade school weren’t you!?
HB: hahahahahah nooooo! bla bla i got these socks from bla bla.
PUA: Ok ok, so u were saying about Barcelona, and how you got reeeaaallyyy drunk one night and started dancing on the bar for free drinks…
HB: HAHAH NOOOO, I never said that!!!! I was saying…
PUA: I mean cuz it’s cool, I did the same thing, haha, SO, what IS something really crazy you’ve done for free drinks?

See the difference? As soon as she got comfortable in one gear the PUA slams into a totally different gear, engages different parts of her brain, and generally keeps her thoughts pretty scrambled. Now, the tough thing here is to not get too pleased with yourself and to remember to continue no matter how pleased with yourself you are. The natural ‘out’ from this sequence is the qualifier or BIG compliance test. So it looks like

line —–> subject change to better line—–> subject change to even better line—–> subject change to qualifier. In this case it starts with socks/chess-team, changes to dancing on bar, and finally qualifies via adventurousness. Thus- crazy attraction generated very very quickly.

One last example just to drive the point home (the PUA illustrated in this example is an RSD instructor running a 2set with me) - a great example of thought-scrambling to build attraction, ending with a final BIG compliance test from me - kissing her neck and making out.

HB: Bla bla bla, we’re here for a conference.
GG: Oh man, so you guys are like industry girls, maaann, just when I was thinking you guys were cool…
HB: Haha bla
PUA: So, you guys are from out of town, where are you staying? (note, the assertion of ‘out of town’, not asking it as a question)
HB: We’re staying at _____ hotel.
PUA: Yeah thats a solid hotel, i stayed there once, the great thing about it is room service will do anything you ask, you can call down at like 3am and ask for a newspaper, a lobster, a blowjob, a shoe shine.
HB: Hahahah What!??!?!
GG: So what, you all are from Dutcheland? Esprecken ze Doitche?
HB: ?? Actually, OMG! Our hotel room comes included with condoms and packets of lubrication, ready to go in the refrigerator. (Can someone say horny IOI?)
GG: , you smell good, come here -

Ok so, lets review the ground rules for how to Build Massive Attraction Verbally FAST.

1) SUPER IMPORTANT!!! Any time you say something you think is good - like you know, when that voice in your head goes “man…that was smooth”, or a line you read on the internet - CHANGE THE SUBJECT IMMEDIATELY! DO NOT give her time to process it. Trust me, it’ll bounce around in her head and she’ll try to process it between thoughts, and the longer this bounces around in her head, undigested, the more attraction it will build.

2) NEVER feel like you have to address what she’s said. If she says something that you feel really helps you along towards the lay, by all means feel free to address it, but otherwise feel free to totally ignore it with an “ok cool” or “ok anyway”.

3) Cut her off when she starts yapping. Her talking is not going to get her attracted. And the longer she talks the longer she has to get her thoughts in order. Simply raise the energy level and change the subject - I usually do this by pointing out something about her - “Omg, is your hat actually made of Rabbit Fur??? I had a pet rabbit when I was 8!!! You killed Mr. Wigglesworth!!!”

4) Use a qualifier or compliance test to get yourself out of the loop - for instance in the example above: “You killed Mr. Wigglesworth!!! Ha! And look, you’re eyes got all big! Ohhh boy, what’re we gonna do with you? Are you any good at snowboarding??”

So, let’s look at some other considerations though.

Firstly, this is obviously very high energy and requires quick thinking on your part to keep things flowing. It works best for me in bars/clubs/lounges.

Secondly: It’s NOT for the timid. If you’re thinking this is a very quick way to become a dancing monkey, you’re totally right. You need to be in tune with the IOIs coming at you and have NO FEAR to capitalize. Meaning, when you see her give you ‘the look’, stop what you’re saying MID SENTENCE and say “come here” and kiss her. The slightest indication of timidness or de-escalation can really derail this. The attraction can disappear just as fast as it’s created. If you’re not comfortable going for a makeout with a girl you met 2 minutes ago…GET COMFORTABLE!

Thirdly: This type of dialogue can only be sustained for a few minutes, tops, before she is overwhelmed, so while you can start at any point in the interaction, be advised that once you do you’ve only got a few minutes to massivly escalate or you run the risk of over-gaming.

It’s tough to transition away from Extreme Multiple Threading (EMT) without a large phase shift - ideally a make-out - though a venue change to a sofa can work. Once you have successfully phase shifted, and hopefully made out, you really need to develop not only deep comfort/rapport (obviously, as this attraction is very state-based and as such is prone to flakes without proper rapport building) but also VALUE (unless you established value before launching into EMT).

A lot of considerations perhaps, but perhaps no more than other methods. For me, after i’ve downed a few vodka & redbulls, this type of game feels natural and tends to be the most fun. It’s also great for sets at the end of the night when you know you don’t have 2 hours and need to get a quick extraction to a diner or back to yours.

Picking Up 9s and 10s

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Most guys believe that 9s and 10s are super hard to get and that for them you need to have ultra-strong game. This is not true. While the game you play on those women is different, it’s not inherently easier or harder.

It’s the same effort and it takes the same amount of time, but the style of game is very different. In some ways gaming 7s can be harder than 9.5s.

Let me explain.

7s and 8s want a nice guy who is kind of strong, who they can rely on (insecurity problem). But at the same time, they want some kind of emotional connection.

So, your game needs to be calibrated really strongly for those women. You will need to calibrate how dominant you are to get good attraction, and how much rapport you need to pull them into bed. Every woman is going to be different, and there are so many factors that control this ratio; the formula is complicated.

Here are a few factors:

Parents (who was more dominant in house)
- they always search for a father role in a future boyfriend.
First sexual experience \ First boyfriend - for example, if a guy was cheating on her she will search for lots of rapport and trust in future guys, and less attraction.
Last boyfriend - if the guy was bad at sex, she will go for guys who are more dominant and sexual.
Her friends - her friends have a lot of influence on her, and she will mirror their value.

Because of all of these factors, it’s not possible to tell how much attraction or rapport a woman may need before you start talking to her. It’s almost impossible to create a perfect model that’s going to work in every case. That’s why those 7s and 8s require so much calibration.

The rule of thumb is that those women need way more rapport than attraction.

With very beautiful and sexy women (9s and 10s), it’s a very different story.

First, let’s take a look what’s happening in a hot woman’s life:

- Parents know how beautiful she is, and they treat her that way her whole life.
- In high school she was a princess, with guys starting to hit on her left and right. She learned early on that all guys want to have sex with her.
- Every time she goes out, guys are kissing up to her and doing everything she wants, as they think that’s the way to get into her pants.
- All guys are extremely insecure around her, and treat her super nicely.
- She easily finds rich boyfriends (sponsor) who buy her everything. They’re fun for a while, until she dumps them.
- When she asks for something, she gets it!

Now you can see the problem. Everyone wants to create rapport with her, and is super nice. So, to be different and to create attraction, you need to break every possible rapport with her. You don’t want to connect with her at all. You need to be different than everyone else. You need to show her that you are not affected by her beauty at all, and that you don’t think she is special. You need to be total selfish bastard. This is the part of the game I love to play.

With those women, there is no rapport at all. She needs to create rapport with you. The first sign that you like her and want to connect with her may be a turn off for her. She knows that she can get everything she wants, and when she starts getting it, she gets bored. So, don’t give her what she wants.

10: Can you hand me that glass?
Me: You have arms and legs.

10 (SMS): I’m helping my friend, he has a problem with a girlfriend, she takes drugs, blah, blah… He needs my help.
Me (SMS): Have sex with him.

10: I think I want to live somewhere else, maybe New York. Or, I dunno… Africa, maybe.
Me: Yeah, go to the jungle; that’s best for you.

10: I like X.
Me: I hate X.

It’s interesting, she will stay around you as long as you do this. I personally feel very stupid being around those women, but as for playing this game, I love it.

Be very careful when they express interest in you.

From time to time they will throw something very personal at you, like a compliment. In reality, this is only a test on the unconscious level. For example: “You are so special. I love to be around you. No one makes me feel so sexy. I like you, and I can’t stop thinking about you.”

Something like this will happen after you become very strong in her life, and you may be tempted to think the game is over. You think she is yours. I’ve made this mistake so many times. You may even reply with something like “I like you too. I’m thinking about you as well.” If you do this, it’s game over. You’ve lost her. You showed affection and now you’re just like all other guys.

This is super-sensitive game with them. You can make only one mistake.

It’s best if you just keep it rolling, and stay congruent with your original image. It’s very hard, but you must be totally non-emotional with them.

The attitude to have is “she’s just a little kid that peed in her panties, and is crying for attention.”

An opener I love to use on these women is “are you a man or a woman” with a totally straight face.

Let the woman qualify herself.

10s are not that hard at all when you are around them alone. The only problem with 10s is that you can’t find them in your regular life, and there are not enough of them even at the best nightclubs.

Progressive Verbal Escalation

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With kino there is an obvious ladder of escalation. Grabbing a girl’s ass is obviously more escalated than touching her shoulder, and for the most part it’s pretty common sense. So when we talk to girls, we start out at an initial kino level, either a touch on the arm or the claw, then escalate progressively from there.

Similar to kino, there is also a verbal escalation ladder. We all have a natural basic understanding of this which looks like:

Friendly topics (movies, music, good bars, etc.) -> personal topics (grew up in Chicago, etc.) -> sexual discussion (I want to turn you around and fuck you from behind while I pull your hair)

What separates verbal escalation from kino escalation is that verbal de-escalations can actually hurt the pick-up. So for instance while slapping a girl’s arse then touching her arm is fine, you generally don’t want to go from talking about sex to talking about names for 80’s dogs.

Every statement/question falls somewhere on a verbal escalation scale.

Some examples of different types of statements -

80’s dogs opener – non sexual, non personal.
“So what is it about social work that you love?” - non-sexual, personal
“I think you’ve got the most amazing eyes” – sexual and personal.

Here’s the Verbal Escalation Ladder as I understand it (the top being the most escalated):


Statement about both sexually
– I can see the two of us on a beach naked just going at it in the sand.

Question about both sexually – Oh man, can you imagine what would happen if the two of us were left alone together?

Statement about both personally – I can tell we’re two of a kind, it’s really rare.

Question about both personally – Why does it feel like we know each other so well?

Statement about her sexually – You have the sexiest grin.

Question about her sexually – What is it that a guy does that drives you wild?

Statement involving you/her personally – You would love ____ book.

Question involving you/her personally – What made you decide to move to SF?

Statement involving you/her impersonally – you have a southern accent/that’s a cool hat.

Question involving her impersonally – what’s the occasion/have you been to NYC?

Statement involving neither you nor her – American Beauty is a great movie

Question involving neither you nor her – What’s a good name for my friend’s puppies?

The idea is clearly to progressively make your way up the ladder. Usually this takes the form of 2 steps forward, one step back, bob around there for a while, move forward again to test the water, back down again etc. Just like with kino, I’ve found that you can actually progress up the ladder a lot quicker than you might think, so push the boundaries and see how much unnecessary banter you can actually cut out of the interaction – assuming you’re going for a day1 pull.

De-Escalation – The quickest way to blow your value

In my experience, there is no more sure-fire way to ruin a set than to de-escalate either because you’re scared or insecure. An obvious example would be, she says “I like it when guys rub my shoulders” and you get scared and say “ha, heh, hey are you going to that party on Saturday?” (oh man, I used to always do this back in my chode days. Then I’d try to revive the escalation and talk about back massages after I’d already mucked it up- makes me cringe now thinking about it)

Interestingly enough, people’s natural reaction to a perceived drop in their own value is to verbally de-escalate. (I’m using “verbally de-escalate” to mean jump from one point on the ladder to a lower point.) While in any interaction you’re going have to naturally de-escalate anyway (you can’t be talking about sex forever), I’m talking specifically about de-escalations as a result of a perceived self value drop.

For instance, say you’re talking about how she has a sexy grin, then some dude carrying a tray squeezes by you, placing you in an awkward position physically as you make room for him. Your natural reaction is going to be once he passes to verbally de-escalate down to talking about a good movie or something and from here to re-climb the ladder. This is weak sauce. Resuming at the same escalation level will actually build your value and increase her attraction to you.

This is in many ways what inner-game is all about. Being self-assured and internally centered so that external events (the guy with the tray) don’t elicit a negative reaction from you (de-escalating).

Another common verbal de-escalation following a perceived drop in value happens when guys get in their own head after ‘messing something up’. For instance if the girl gives a shit test and the guy feels like he didn’t pass it well (this is a total chode mindset, but we’re talking about his perception here). The guy will almost always step back and verbally de-escalate. Or if he spills his drink, same thing- there’s really no shortage of examples.

Interestingly enough, de-escalating after the failed shit-test is more damaging than actually failing the shit test (or spilling the drink or anything else). Whereas continuing un-phased is going to significantly boost your value to the girl. So ultimately the only factor of significance to the girl is your self-perceived value, which is completely determined by you and only you.

Develop your inner game and let the pieces fall into place.

Day Walking

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I am launching a new Day Game seminar with Love Systems, and wanted to write an article outlining some of my most salient thoughts on the topic.

I’ve been working on my game for a few years now (started with David DeAngelo in 2003, but got into Game proper in 2005). I concentrated very much on indirect club game when I started, but as I grew and developed I discovered a love for Direct Game and Day Game.

Where I stand now is that I like doing night game as well, but Day Game will always be my first love. I have met two of the most incredible girlfriends that I have loved most in my life through Day Game, have had countless dates as a result of daytime number closes, have taken girls home the same day I’ve met them, and brought group of girls I’ve met in the day back to my place.

I’ve stopped using routines and now flow naturally from my heart. I have enormous respect for routines and I teach my students to use routines if I think they need them. Ultimately though, I have practiced so many routines that I now create them on the spot (which in a way is what being natural is about). I don’t do takeaways, I don’t disqualify, I don’t neg. I escalate shamelessly, hard and fast, whilst simultaneously making sure the girl feels as comfortable and safe as possible.

Though I meet girls in night game, I enjoy the variety of girls you can meet in the daytime, the ease with which you can talk to them (bitch shields are WAY down in the day), and the way you can brighten up a beautiful woman’s day unexpectedly.

In some ways, Day Game follows the same structure as any other type of game. But people are always asking me questions about how things are different. So here are the main differences and how to get around them as I see it.

1. Guys generally get more approach anxiety approaching girls in the daytime than they do at night.

People always think, “Isn’t it weird to approach girls in the day? Aren’t they busy? Aren’t they going to tell you to f*ck off?” The truth is it’s no less weird than approaching people you don’t know to talk to them in a bar. I used to think girls were going to react really badly, when in fact, they probably react better in the daytime than they do at night. At night, they expect guys to be drunk and hit on them, but in the daytime, it happens to them much less often and thus they are impressed by your confidence and willingness to take risks. Like all approach anxiety, the only way to overcome this is to man up and go open them!

2. Direct openers are much more necessary in Day Game than night game.

There are a lot of venue considerations in Day Game (see below), but in many situations, particularly in street game, it can come across as really bizarre to stop a random girl and ask her opinion on something. In a bar, you could feasibly be having a conversation with your mates, and want to ask someone nearby their opinion, but in the daytime it comes across as less congruent. Direct openers work fantastically well on the street, e.g. “Excuse me, I just saw you walking past and thought you looked absolutely beautiful! I know this is really forward of me but I just had to say hello. How are you?” direct openers are also massively important for moving sets. Contrary to what most people think, it is ridiculously easy to stop moving sets (most of my sets are girls walking past me), you just need to be committed enough to your direct opener. When you open a moving set, stop, plant yourself right on the ground where you are and deliver the opener. Do NOT start moving as they are moving, wait for them to stop. If they don’t stop, it will be creepy to follow them.

3. Day Game involves a greater variety of venues than night game. These venues are mainly differentiated by the levels of Social Pressure they involve.

You have the streets (my favourite), cafés, bookstores, art galleries, college campuses etc. Every venue or situation is slightly different, so you will need to develop good social calibration so you don’t creep girls out. The biggest factor to be aware of is Social Pressure. The more other people can listen to your interaction with a woman, the higher the Social Pressure will be, and the more potentially uncomfortable the girl will feel. In high social pressure situations, your job is three-fold. First, don’t go too direct, either open indirectly or tone down your Direct opener (e.g. “That’s a lovely dress, how you doing?”). Second, have a strong frame of feeling comfortable in the interaction. The strongest frame always wins: You feeling comfortable talking to her will make her relax. If you are nervous, she will start to feel uncomfortable. The truth is, feeling this comfortable only comes with time and practice. But remember, she can’t see how you feel inside, only how you act on the outside. Third, make her laugh. If you can tease her or otherwise make her laugh within the first thirty seconds of the interaction, she will instantly relax – the interaction is then suddenly a fun bit of banter with a stranger instead of being accosted by some creepy guy on the subway.

4. Super hot girls are MUCH easier to open in the daytime.

You know how the super hot girls get hit on a lot in bars and clubs? There is one reason why: alcohol. It normally starts happening after everyone is liquored up. In the sober light of day (and without all their buddies to back up their testosterone levels), most guys are shit scared of the uber hottie walking down the street. They will gawp at her, but God forbid they summon the stones to go up to her and say hello. Direct game works really well in the daytime with super hotties. You’ll be surprised at how many of them will turn around to you and say, “Oh my God, that’s so nice of you, no one has ever stopped me on the street to say that!”

5. You can get into Comfort much more quickly in Day Game than night game.

The fact that you have approached her in the daytime already demonstrates a lot of value; if you went Direct (good on ya!), then this is even more pronounced. Attraction building should happen in a matter of minutes. As soon as she’s laughing and enjoying the interaction, stop thinking about attraction and start thinking about qualifying and building comfort. You’ll need to escalate things as part of this. The easiest way to escalate the interaction on the street is to ask her which way she is headed, and suggest that you walk with her for a few minutes to chat. You can add in a, “I don’t want go dress shopping or anything like that with you though – that would be kinda gay - so I’ll probably head off in a few minutes!” This works exactly like a false time constraint. You are reducing the pressure in the situation.

6. Day Game approaches are often less expected by women and can take them by surprise.

This is a double edged sword. On the one hand, as mentioned above it causes guys to have more anxiety when daytime approaching, and they sometimes equate the surprise that girls will get with her being weirded out. On the other hand, because she is surprised, you have just spiked her emotions and therefore, if you run the interaction well, this turns into a massive positive for you. Not to mention that fact that very rarely do guys approach women on the street, so when you do approach her she will be more impressed and more likely to remember you positively (therefore LESS likely to flake than a night game set). The best way to handle the surprise/shock factor she may experience (especially if you use a direct opener) is to acknowledge the situation, e.g. “I know this is really forward of me… but I was going to regret it all day if I didn’t stop you and say hello,” or, “This is very bold of me, but I thought you looked absolutely stunning, and I don’t believe in letting opportunities pass you by.”

7. It is harder to get a Same Day Lay than a Same Night Lay.

The reason why this is true is because of logistics, not because of social conventions (which is what you might have expected). If your game is good enough, you can bend social conventions to your whim, but once you get good, the biggest problem you spend most of your time overcoming is logistics. The fact is, girls will tend to be more busy and in the middle of doing other things in the daytime, so often you will only be able to take a phone number, build some comfort, and then move on. However, this doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be on the lookout for Same Day Lays! In the ideal situation, you meet the girl and take her on a series of venue changes than end up back at your place. More commonly, there will be an “interrupt”, where she has to go home to eat or meet friends etc. In these cases you can still try to get her to come out to a party with you that night. Guys, you need to get out of the mentality that Day Game is just about taking phone numbers: You are trying to seduce these women not just get their digits. Set up the instant date if you can (e.g. take her for a coffee, then a drink, then a walk, then your place), or arrange to meet her later that day if you can. As mentioned above though, this all depends on what else she has got going on that day. Welcome to the wonderful world of logistical management!

8. You often have less time to demonstrate value to the girl than in night game.

Some girls you open will be in a rush to get somewhere, just about to meet friends, or may not have the time or inclination to talk to a random (albeit fun and interesting) stranger in the middle of the day. Because you are not in a bar, chances are she is not going to see you talking to other people (i.e. no opportunity for social proof). In the daytime therefore, you typically have a very small window of opportunity to make a good first impression: You must present yourself as well as humanly possible. Leave the house ready to meet women. Wear nice clothes, style your hair, and wear good shoes (don’t wear your tatty trainers, homeboy). All of these things will encourage her to response positively to her when you stop her in the middle of the street.

9. Groups of women seem more difficult to approach even though they really are not.

It is not true that you can’t run Direct Game on groups of women, and it is not true that you can’t open groups of women in the daytime. Your strategy with a group should be either to pull all of them to another venue with you (typically again, there will be an interrupt, but you can invite them somewhere later that night), or to open the girl you want, build some comfort with the whole group (so they approve of you and allow you to pick up the girl you want), and then start escalating with your chosen girl. Escalation in front of the group might be as simple as taking her number, finding out some stuff about her and qualifying her a little.

This of course is not everything there is to know about Day Game, but I’ve covered some of the most salient points here that I think a lot of people miss about this fine art.

The most important thing guys, is to take action. I have sarged with so many people who excel in night game, but choke in the daytime. You need to be willing to take action TODAY, not tomorrow, not the day after. Procrastination is the world’s greatest sin. You will find that once you force yourself to open a few daytime sets, your skills and experience in other areas will rapidly transfer across. It’s just being willing to burst through that barrier.

Day Game for Newbies

Doing Day Game can be scary at first. Here’s a few tasks to ease you into it if you’re having trouble. These tasks are progressively harder, but will demonstrate to you that people are a lot friendlier and pleasant in the daytime than you might expect. Rather than complicate it with group sets at this point, start off with women who are by themselves.

• Ask 5 beautiful women, “Excuse me, do you know what the time is?”
• Ask 5 beautiful women, “Excuse me, do you know where the nearest coffee shop is?
• Ask 5 beautiful women, “Excuse me, do you know where the nearest men’s fashion store is? [She replies]. Oh thanks, I’m trying to get some new shirts. You’re very well dressed, do you have any tips for me?”
• Tell 5 beautiful women, “Excuse, I just saw you walking past and I thought you were really cute, I had to stop and say hello. How are you?”

After you’ve completed these tasks, you are ready to move onto standard transitioning and attraction building etc.

Good luck fellas!

Getting Sexual part 3

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From here, it’d be counter-productive to revert to some random DHV story about camping and finding bear shit – as it’s neither personal nor sexual. Instead, you can still establish value, but do so in a personal way, such as “Yeah, it was really hard for me to move back from Europe to the U.S. as a lot of my best friends are still there and blah blah blah”.

Project Sexual State

I don’t want to go too much into this here, but basically the idea is to look her in the eyes and think about her giving you head while you talk to her. Feel your own horniness and imagine bending her over or getting head from her as she speaks. Don’t feel like you need to apologize for being a man – rather, embrace your masculine feelings and let her feel them as well. This has been written about masterfully by others so I’ll avoid going into it further.

Progressively Escalate Kino

This isn’t a linear process. Just realize that obviously rubbing a girl’s ass is more escalated than touching her shoulder. You should kino off the break and keep it escalated. Lots of arm around her, touching her stomach, slapping her ass (if you know how), kissing her neck, etc. Oh, and don’t become the tacky club make-out guy.

Also, leading is key. Lead her from one end of the club to the bar, to the dance floor, to the bar, to the door, etc. And make sure to introduce her to all the social proof you created at the beginning of the night.

Protect Your Buying Temperature

This is absolutely crucial! Not only must you protect your pull from other guys, you also have to watch out for her friends that will pretty quickly catch on and put an end to things if you’re not careful.

So with regards to the friends, never ever let them think you’re leaving to bang the girl – I can’t tell you how many pulls I’ve had sabotaged by the less attractive friends. Obviously you should try to charm the friends and get them on your side. Statement of interests to the friends can be really useful here, along the lines of “I really like your friend, I don’t know why, but I feel like we’re really on the same page with a lot of things”. Also, don’t leave her alone with her friends unless you’re sure you’ve got them on your side.

With regards to other guys, recognize that BUYING TEMP IS TRANSFERABLE! The fact that she was making out with you 5 mins ago means she’s super horny and ultra-receptive to the next guy who comes along. If you must leave her side, either get a wing to keep her occupied, or get her friends to watch her. If you do leave and return to see her with another guy you have a few options.

1) Blow him out (least favorable).
2) Get your wing to engage the guy and scoop her back. (ok)
3) Tell her friends what’s going on and get them to pull her back for you. A simple “Hey I really like your friend, can you help me out by getting her away from this guy?” is really powerful here as you now have the friends HELPING you pick up her friend – so they can hardly object later on.

Pulling to Semi-Private Location

The pull is probably the easiest piece of the puzzle. If you’ve escalated your kino and dialogue properly it’s only a natural extension of the interaction. Especially if you hit the top piece of the verbal escalation scale, in which there’s literally nothing left to say. If her friends aren’t around your job is much easier. I’ve had success being both direct and indirect here, though I prefer the latter. So once I feel like she’s ready, I’ll casually say “Hey, come with me outside to smoke a cigarette” or “Hey, I want to grab my cigarettes from the car but I’ve got really poor night vision, can you walk me?” or “Hey come outside with me” or “Hey, walk me to the bathroom” – you get the point. After you say it, just take her hand and begin walking. Don’t look back – just go.

The moment you have an available semi-isolated location (doorway, hallway, bathroom, alley, etc.) roughly plant her against the wall and begin making out, hard. Do this for maybe half a minute or more (depending on the girl) then turn her around and begin grinding on her ass while you kiss her neck. You start fingering her over her pants, or proceed how ever else you see fit. The key here is dominance. Also, don’t be shy about putting her hand on your cock.

And finally if the girl is with her friends, brief her girl on how things need to go down for the pull to happen. For example:

Ryan: Listen, tell your friends we’re hungry and we’re going to get some food and we’ll be back in a half hour before the club closes.

Or

Ryan: Listen, tell your friends you’re walking with me me to ____ and we’ll be right back.

Getting Sexual part 2

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So somewhere during all this bein